update

This spring I moved 86 adult sheep (yearling or older) to the new place 10 miles away. Of those 86, I have 39 wintering this year. Of the 54 ewes that lambed, I have only 13 of those left. of the 18 rams, I will have 5. To say it was a year of downsizing, is no understatement. Although I tried diligently to keep ewes out of each of the ewes I sold, that did not always work. I hope that because I sold them to homes I know, i can someday get something back if i need to.

That being said I'll be breeding this fall:

Three yearling Leceister Longwools from Anne Campers flock in Montana. I purchased them last fall when I had plans of staying on my 32 acre place, but that sale fell through due to the seller, so I am where I am now because of that.

Four Blueface Leicester ewes, two yearlings, a four year old and a six year old. Thank you Nancy, Lisa and Brenda for these girls, again.

27 shetland ewes, with 2-4 ewes available as bred ewes this fall/winter, so I will lamb 23-25 Shetland ewes, totalling 30-32 ewes to lamb.

so in 2013 - 146 ewes lambed
2014 - 0 (i didnt know if i was moving or not)
2015 - 72 ewes lambed
2016 - 34 ewes lambed (i had a crossing ram who was sterile so had 18 ewes not lamb this year)
2017 - 49 ewes lambed

So it will be my lowest number of ewes lambing in quite some time. It will feel like a holiday!

Flock numbers for the 27 shetlands are averaged to this:

AFD 25.5, SD 4.9, CV 19.1, CEM 8.6, CF 80,6, SF 24.5, CRV 70.8

I am extremely happy with these numbers, and although i sold a lot of my best sheep, I have a nice mix that I've kept, plus ewe lambs to move forward with. 

That being said, I will have at least 10 ewes available next year after lambs are weaned. The list is subject to change, but this is what I am thinking:

WhitePine Versoix - 2016 - black gul/kat - Sommarang Luca x UnderTheSon Viva

WhitePine Bivina - 2012 -musket - WhitePine Caiphas AI x Owlhill Butter

WhitePine Neunkirch - 2016 -black gul/kat - Sommarang Luca x WhitePine Nina Sky AI

WhitePine Laga - 2015 -moorit - WhitePine Carver x WhitePine Lydia

WhitePine Nike - 2015 - moorit smirslet sokket - WhitePine Carver x WhitePine NinaSky AI

WhitePine Renens - 2016 -white - WhitePine Loki x Lancien Clarice

WhitePine Nidau - 2016 -white - WhitePine Loki x WhitePine Noss

WhitePine Yeshivas - 2016 - black light badgerface smirslet - Whistlestop 1123 x PS23Josey

I will also have an older ewe, UnderTheSon Viva, who I would like to find a good home for, or a breeding home that could use her another year or two. She's ridiculously soft and placed 2nd in her fleece class at MSBBA fleece show.

If you send a deposit now to hold a ewe, I will pay transfers, room/board and give a 10% discount.

I am hoping after the next week or two I will have time to get better photos of the ewes and the breeding groups.

WhitePine Crosby's Breeding group (4 of 6)

Crosby was a ram lamb that I really didn't want to part with when he was a lamb. Lori S. had inquired about a quality ram and i offered him to her with the agreement I get first refusal if she decided to move him on. After two years of using him, she asked me if I wanted him back and I jumped on it. His dam, ShelteringPines Classique, has a ewe family I've long admired, and his sire, Jazz is out of Todhill Jericho and a whistlestop ewe who has done a lot for fine fleece shetlands.

To boot, he carries spots, moorit and modified and has a lovely blue-gray fleece, which seems to be lacking in about half of the katmogets in the US. My plan was to use Crosby this fall and then slaughter him, but I may need to keep him around at least until his lambs start to develop. I have a lot of ewes with him, but two are here to be bred and two i'm hoping to offer as bred. So Crosby has 18 ewes.

UnderTheSon 14148 - fawn katmoget - is a yearling ewe from Theresa that I got as a lamb. Her fleece and conformation is quite incredible. she needs some more time to develop but she should finish maturing next year on the lush pastures.

PS23 Isadora and Lancien Athena are going to Iowa as bred ewes.

WhitePine Bivina - musket - is available as a bred ewe from this group. She produces large horned rams with great fleece, dense and crimpy.

Sommarang Isla - moorit/fawn - is available as a bred ewe from this group. Her ewe lambs in the past have been wonderful, with lines I like to work with. But shes moorit ;)

Sheltering Pines Bengal - gray katmoget (SP Starry Night x Underhill Alix) is a ewe I"ve love admired with lines that are easy to work with. She has produced three outstanding ewe almbs for me, so hoping for a horned ram from her this next year. She'll be 9 this next year but she is incredible soft, silky, crimpy and in great condition. I'm hoping with her blue/gray fleece as well as Crosbys that I"ll get more of it, but guessing she'll have nice stuff no matter the color.

Lancien Aida - white - (Lofty Pine's Krill Spot x Underihll Madame Butterfly) is another ewe I love for her lines, and how she has produced. She gave me twin rams this year so hoping for white ewe lambs out of this pairing. She'll be 8 next year so hoping for a few more productive years with her.

WhitePine Snow Patrol - gray katmoget horned (Jazz x ShelteringPines Snow Cloud) is a half sister to the ram, but both have the lovely blue gray fleece. Hoping for katmogets and maybe a horned ewe lamb to replace her, as Snow Patrol will be offered for sale next summer, as i've kept quite a bit from her.

WhitePine Aithsetter - gray katmoget smirslet (WhitePine Flo Rida AI x WhitePine Adele AI) She is one of my finest ewes and goes back to Greenholme Holly closely, one of the original rams imported and is out of Adele which is my finest ewe line. Her blue/gray fleece is again in hopes of lots of katmogetes.

WhitePine Lydia - gray katmoget (Jazz x Layla) is another half sibling but hoping to solidify the type and the dark blue/gray fleece of both parents. Lydia has repeatedly been a good producer so hoping for more katmogets next year.

WhitePine Nott - black - (UnderTheSon Duke Cardif x WhitePine Noche Bueno) is a very fine, black ewe with extreme crimp. She was so nice I had to keep her (and she's obnoxiously friendly). Hoping her dark fleece will produce more black like her or katmoget!

WhitePine Riko - gray katmoget (WhitePine City High AI x WhitePine Roseau) is a beautiful typey ewe with probably the best fleece I sheared in June. Just tickled with how well she's done in the show ring and so anxious to see her lambs with Crosby.

WhitePine Orthia - gray katmoget (WhitePine City High AI x Whistlestop 1234) is half sister to the above ewe with high UK bloodlines. She was FFSSA Champion in Colorado in June 2016 and placed 4th in Jefferson in a competitive yearling class, right behind Riko. They also helped me get best pair of ewe lambs in 2015, best small flock 2015, third place small flock 2016, and 2nd best fleeece on hoof 2015. So anything from this should also be nice :)

WhitePine Urd - gray katmoget (WhitePine City High AI x Shelterpines Amarige) is another half sister to above and I'm anxious to see what is produced. She has the length and luster and density i'm after, and extremely well marked.

WhitePine Laga - moorit (WhitePine Carver x WhitePine Lydia) is a typey moorit. hoping her dark fleece translates to dark katmoget lamb fleeces. Her fleece is ridiculously crimpy but looking to get a bit more length on it (its 3.5" full fleece)

WhitePine Atina - moorit (WhitePine Carver x WhitePine Adele AI) is another typey moorit who looks a lot like her mother. Very crimpy again, and hoping for more length. She's extremely fine.

WhitePine Eosha - musket yuglet flecket sokket (UnderTheSon Duke Cardiff x WhitePine Eureka) was a surprise when I got out to the lambing jug. Her fleece is extremely dense, extremely crimpy and everything about her is correct. I just wish for a bit silkier handle, so she's in here for that (and to see if I can get more spots)

WhitePine Juno - gray katmoget (WhitePine 1334 Perfection x ShelteringPines Bengal) is a dark blue/gray fleeced, dense ewe whos tame, typey and correct. Just excited to see what she produces.

Overall the group was put together to get more blue/gray katmogets that are correct and sound, typey and fine. I really don't think there is a ton to improve upon, just wishing for more of the same, but younger :)

KSpirit Farm Cedar's breeding group (group 3 of 6)

When Donna and I first started enabling each other a few years ago, she teased me with this horned gulmoget ram. Since most gulmogets with fine wool are polled, i was a bit skeptical over how much crimp or fineness or softness this ram would have. She sent me a sample last spring and I was really pleased with it. Well as enabling happens, she ended up getting one of my favorite ram lambs last year and it was agreed I'd get Cedar this year. We both know his horns are close (not touching) and that we would need to consider that, as well as keep back ram lambs with good horn spacing (not too wide, but not too close). I had planned on eating him after this years breeding groups, but he's pretty nice so will hold on to him to make sure we get something gulmoget with nicer horns.

There are 11 ewes in here but only 9 are mine/will be staying here.
WhitePine Des'ree is going to Iowa as a bred ewe, and GlenTam Ganymede is here to get bred. She's a knockout ewe, so honored they brought her here to be bred.

That leaves 9:

WhitePine Taconite - black gulmoget (OK Acres Cadillac x Black Forest Tilly). Throwing all my gulmoget chances to one breeding. Let's hope they produce them! She really produces.

WhitePine Ady - black light badger face (Whistlestop 1123 x FirthofFifth Ashegon). She is a great producer so whatever she throws will be nice.

WhitePine Pacena - musket - (FirthofFifth Nekomis x Owlhill Pranilla AI). She's a sweetie who also produces well.

Whistlestop 1241 "Heylor" - fawn/moorit (WS 1108 x WS 0922). constant producer of high quality modified sheep, i'm hoping for some lovely miogets or gulmogets from this.

WhitePine NinaSky AI - gray katmoget smirslet sokket (Todhill Jericho x ShelteringPines Nirvana). She's been a fantastic producer as well and so i'm hoping she'll really click with Cedar.

WhitePine Niamh - fawn (WhitePine Carver x WhitePine Neriah) is a beautiful yearling with the perfect fleece length, crimp, handle, silkiness, density. She's also friendly. Hoping she produces like her mom.

WhitePine Frigg - fawn smirslet sokket (WhitePine Carver x WhitePine Foley) is another yearling who really came in to herself this year. I'm excited to see if she'll produce some spotties or modifieds

WhitePine Kali - fawn (WhitePine Carver x WhitePine Isbister) is another beautiful yearling who really came in to her own this summer. she's a beautiful ewe and hoping for more greatness here.

WhitePine Adicia - fawn katmoget (WhitePine City High x WhitePine Aywick) is one of the typiest ewes i've had with phenominal looks and fleece from birth right on through to adulthood. I really wanted to put her in all four groups but had to make up my mind. Let's see some magic happen here too.

Overall the ewes in this group were put here for either more fleece length, more density or if nothing else, because they are great sheep and I hope for more modifieds (so I can offer them to friends who produce those colors more specifically)

In my quest to move out my moorit based sheep, Niamh, Frigg and Kali and 1241/Heylor, will be available midsummer of 2017. If you would like to put down a deposit, I would be happy to hold  them until that time for you.

Bringing to Jefferson

I will have the following sheep at Jefferson available for sale:

WhitePine Radler - black scurred ram lamb - FirthofFifth Nekomis x FirthofFifth Rahu. For a Shetland he is a beef cake. Really pleased with him conformationally.

WhitePine Kaliber - gray katmoget polled ram lamb - WhitePine Levi (F1 Jamie) x FirthofFifth Koosi (F1 Jericho). Smooth polled, carries solid. Could carry spotted and moorit.

WhitePine Salvator - gray katmoget horned ram lamb - FirthofFifth Nekomis x WhitePine Salome (Jazz daughter who is yuglet sokket flecket and horned. Corinne Rasso has first right of refusal.

WhitePine Nastro Azuro - white horned ram lamb - WhitePine Roman x WhitePine Neriah. Probably one of the best matings I've ever had. I love this ram more and more and will keep him if he doesn't sell as he is that nice.

WhitePine Nesse's Monster Mash (M&M). He was sold to upstate New York but plans fell through so he is available. He is a horned gray katmoget with spots at birth. He could be homozygous katmoget but don't know unless test bred. His fleece alone is worth trying him out. He'll stay too if not sold.


WhitePine Maccabee - moorit ram lamb. FirthofFifth Nekomis x Sheltering Pines Myra. He's a handsome lad with smaller than typical horns. He's a beefy boy for a shetland (still breed typical) and will also stay here if not sold.

WhitePine Negra Modelo - black horned ram - WhitePine Roman x ShelteringPines Nirvana. Nirvana has produced 5 outstanding ewe lambs that I"ve retained them all. I don't think NM will be as fine as his sisters but he's still a handsome boy.

whitePine Calvinus - gray katmoget horned ram - WhitePine Caiphas x WhitePine Centennial. Not ideal half brother/sister mating but the results were absolutely amazing. When you see him you'll understand why. He's a bit younger than the rest as he was a result of the clean up ram in with the ewes, but he's a great ram lamb worth consideration.



Also two black ewe lambs WhitePine Fiji (WhitePine Roman x White Pine Festus) and WhitePine Raffle (WhitePine Barnabas x WhitePine Rush). Both are double F2s and will have a 5-6" staple length with more tip than I like, but very worthy of being bred.

Also will have a 2 year old F1 Holly fully horned ram available. His transport to Maryland fell through and will be available for sale.

Available Immediately

I have the following ewes available for sale. As always, our flock is blood tested annually and is found free of OPP, Johne's, CL and BTV. Annual micron testing is also done and the utmost care in health management and rotational grazing is done.

These animals have been utilized in both AI programs and ground breeding programs (some pure, some crossbreeding) and all have met our stringent requirements for a productive ewe.

These ewes are ONLY AVAILABLE until July 15th. Ewes can be held here for a small boarding fee until Jefferson show in September. A non refundable 25% deposit is required to hold your selections. 10% Discounts on 3 or more sheep.

WhitePine Castle Rock - gray katmoget ewe (Wintertime Jazz x Justalit'l Chloe) Ab/Aa, BB/Bb, SS/S?. C.R. gave me a wonderful ewe lamb out of Barish last year that I retained as well as a gorgeous white ewe lamb out of White Pine Roman this year. Since I am retaining her sister Centennial, I feel she can move on to be productive for another farm. Great AI prospect. $350

Justalit'l Chloe - fawn katmoget ewe (Underhill Bartok x Justalit'l Ewenique) Ab/Ab, Bb/Bb, SS/Ss. Chloe has performed so well here for us I would love to see her genetics and qualities shine at another flock at this time. She is extremely improveable as is evidence in her lambs, when bred to a nice ram. She's been AI'ed three times with outstanding results. $300.

RYL Rachildas - white illget ewe (Bramble Connor x Blackfeather Seti) Awt/Ag, BB/BB, SS/Ss. Rachildas has been AI'ed in the past and bred to high UK rams and has given me amazing lambs. Conformation is on point, crimpy, typical Shetland look. Her daughter out of Jazz this year takes my breath away. Older ewe but still has many good years of breeding in her $250.

ShelteringPines Myra - fawn katmoget ewe (ShelteringPines Starry Night x Canosia Farm May) she has given me only ram lambs, but they have been stunners! I have several ewes related to her and am retaining her son from this year. A lovely typey ewe with crimp and luster. Her tail is about an inch too long for me, but it is improveable. AI prospect.$300

Wintertime Galina - black gulmoget ewe (Wintertime Black Forrest x ShelteringPines The Holy Grail) At/Aa, BB/Bb, SS/Ss. I am retaining her black gulmoget ewe lamb out of Ephraim. Galina is a solid sided gullie with wonderful conformation. AI prospect.$400

WhitePine Skor - shaela ewe (FirthofFifth don Telmo Bourbon x FirthofFifth Assam Meleng) Aa/Aa, BB/Bb, SS/Ss, MM/Mm . Shorter in leg, she still produces a lovely pewter fleece like her mother. I'm retaining her mioget daughter out of AI (heights orion). $250

Minwawe Dark Chocolate - black krunet ewe - wonderful conformation and size. Her 2 yr old micron was 25.6 AFD, 6.7 SD, 26 CV with a CF of 81.2%. She is Aa/Aa, BB/B?, SS/Ss, MM/Mm. domestic ewe with crimp. It does happen! $250

Minwawe RedBud - shaela krunet ewe - short on leg and small in stature her lambs grow fast and are about the same size as she is already. Aa/Aa, BB/Bb, SS/Ss, Mm/MM. a nice 6" fleece that sells fast every year. $250.

The following ewes are available as unregistered at $125 each:
Minwawe Flopsy - older moorit ewe who is looking for a retirement home and shouldn't be bred again.
Minwawe Sea Breeze - moorit yuglet sokket. small in stature. produces spots.
WhitePine Columbine - black two year old. Was a bottle baby. Small in stature. Fleece is longer than I think is standard. her AFD as a two year old was 26.2 AFD with an SD of 7.1. She had the cutest black smirslet ewe lamb this year with fleece improvement that I will be retaining.

Sales List

I have transport available to BSG with these ewes/rams.

RYL Rachildas white ewe. Awt/Ag, BB/B?, SS/Ss. I've talked about her enough. She's super fantastic! 4" inch fleece. larger crimp. 13% UK (Lightning)

Sommarang Emerald black flecket ewe, Aa/Aa, BB/B?, Ss/Ss. Big girl, really milks for her babes. Growthy lambs. 4" crimpy fleece. Lots of Minder behind her.

Minwawe RedBud - shaela ewe. 100% domestic. Aa/Aa BB/Bb, SS/Ss, Mm/Mm. Small ewe but her lambs have been really nice. 6" fleece.

WhitePine Columbine - black iset ewe - to be sold with no papers. Aa/Aa, BB/B?, SS/Ss. Could sell now with lamb at side (black smirslet ewe lamb). Could register the lamb.

Justalit'l Chloe - 31% UK Mostly Minder. Ab/Ab, Bb/Bb, SS/Ss We all know how i feel about her :)

Minwawe SeaBreeze. moorit smirslet sokket. 100% domestic. Short 2 " fleece with no definintion to it. Produces very stunning lambs when bred to high % UK rams. Aa/Aa Bb/Bb, Ss/Ss, MM/Mm.

Minwawe Flopsy - moorit. Aa/Aa Bb/Bb, SS/Ss. In a lot of the domestic lines. Produces and then some. Good size and conformation. eight year old lady with a lot of life left in her. Always throws really spotted lambs. Her lamb from last year AFD micron was 20.0!

Sheltering Pines Myra - fawn katmoget. Ab/Aa, MM/Mm, Bb/Bb, SS/Ss. Has produced two singles the past two years. Gorgeous rams (Matthias from last year). Slightly longer tail, however still proportionate wool/hair and is fluked. I can't keep all these katmogets!

lambs:

Moorit smirslet ram (will be fawn) out WhitePine Ephraim (F1 Orion) and Minwawe RedBud. Nearly the size of his dam already at 8 weeks of age. nice horns, tail, bite etc.

Mioget ram - gorgeous horns and fleece. Ephraim xMyra.

Moorit gulmoget smirslet ram - Ephraim x WinterTime Galina (Forrest x SheltringPines Holy Grail)

Fawn ram - Ephraim x Ulla. Classic wool and poll and cheeks.

modified black ram with smirslet - Heights Orion x WhitePine Skor. He will be shaela for sure, if not emsket!


Adult rams:

Shelterings Pines Pumpernickel Pogo - gray katmoget flecket, smirslet, sokket. Proven sire. Amazing horns, carries moorit. He is a barn basher, so would need to be put out away from buildings and used just this year and sold/butchered. Lovely UK crimp.

WhitePine Caiphas - F1 holly - gray katmoget, huge horns. AFD 21. Amazing UK crimp.

WhitePine Uphaz - F1 minder - musket smirslet sokket. AFD 24. Larger crimp.

First Round Breeding Groups and sale ewes

Ok so its not my FIRST round (more like my 30th) but my first official 'blog' entry about it :)

I have 18 ewes that I would like to AI this fall. Now maybe not 18, perhaps 15, but time will tell to see if I'll wittle it down to 15. I have 10 that need to be bred to ground breedings as most haven't lambed yet, or I feel are too small and would only give me a single to the AI procedure...not worth it in my opinion. And a third group of 6 that I'll put to the BFL to make Mules. I'm not going to breed ewe lambs this year, just because I have enough mature ewes to use this year and although a good year of sales, I don't want to press my luck next year :)

I'm still debating on using my F1 ram lambs, or if I should just use my mature rams?

These ewes are available for sale and can be bred to any mature ram before they leave here:

FirthofFifth Evidence of Autumn - mioget ewe - produces great lambs when AI"ed. I do not want to use her on Orion again, so she will be going to the BFL for market lambs this fall. She is available for sale and can be bred to any mature ram prior to pick up if that is more desired. I'm retaining both her ram and ewe lamb from this year.

Justalit'l Shasta - gray flecket ewe - has been used in AI, but have grays now of higher % UK to use. She can also be bred to your choice of mature rams, or I will put her to the BFL for Mules.

Minwawe Flopsy - moorit ewe - proven mature ewe, carrise spots. the structure on her is amazing. I'm retaining her ewe lamb from this year. She is also available bred to any of my mature rams, or will be bred to the BFL.

Minwawe Dark Chocolate - black yearling ewe - she is also structurally beautiful, but too coarse for my taste. she will go to the BFL for mules unless she is purchased. Can be bred to any mature ram of mine.

RYL Rachildas - white illget ewe - Her fleece is higher, but very consistent and crimpy. Structure is nice. I've retained all her lambs so far, that is why she is available. If not sold, she will maybe be bred to Jazz, or more likely the BFL.

WhitePine Columbine - black yearling ewe -. Although her Comfort Factor was 98.6%, and her AFD was 20.6, she had a really high CV. I"m going to breed her to the BFL this year and get a new fleece test done in the spring. If she is still soft, I may put her to a purebred Shetland next year.

Minwawe Sea Breeze - moorit smirslet sokket ewe - She was bred to Jazz and gave me the cutest smirslet sokket with white tail, gray katmoget ewe lamb this year. Her lamb may be reserved by this weekend, but Sea Breeze definitely threw the spots! If she doesn't sell, I'll probably breed her to the BFL as well.

Any of the above ewes are negotiable on prices. Please inquire. Photos of them are on my Ramsay-Farms.com link to the right of this post.


I guess a lot of what I plan to do this fall will hinge on the micron tests of the ram lambs. I really wanted to use mioget/fawn/moorit solid rams (no pattern, or AaAa) on all of my katmoget ewes. I have less and less solid colored ewes so need to step back and use moorit based rams on my patterned ewes.

I'm also going to lamb earlier this year. I'm planning on lambing ALL of my ewes the end of March or Early April. I really need to be done by April 15 this year as our Cardigan National is the END of the month of April and I need to make sure they are all done lambing and bonded with the lambs before I leave for that.
will keep you posted :)

Three ewes still available!

I have three ewes still available.

Minwawe Flopsy, moorit, born 2002. Proven spot producer. Solid, square build, great mom, easy keeper. Has micron report and tested negative for OPP, Johne's and CL.

Justalit'l Shasta, smirslet flecket Ag gray. born 2005. horned. Proven spot producer. Solid girl, great mom, F2 Gordon. Micron reports available. Also tested negative for OPP, Johne's and CL. Her lambs have been just dynamite.

Minwawe Dark Chocolate, black, born 2008. Solid build, typey ewe who is jet black. Carries modified and spots. Microns available. Tested negative for OPP, Johne's and CL.

These three ewes would be a great starter flock for someone having a black, moorit and ag ewe, all that carry spots! Please inquire.

I just realized how many ewes I'm wanting/hoping to keep this winter and its about the same as last year....so I thought. I may have to make another hard cut in my proven ewes, as well as my lambs. My loss would be your gain. Please inquire about who would be on that list. Likely to change until August 1st when my decisions will be made.