Who we are

Ramsay Farms is situated in the northeastern part of Ottertail County, near Perham, Minnesota. This family farm of 320 acres has been in the Ramsay family for five generations, dating back to 1892. Today our farm prides itself on our Simmental cattle, Shetland Sheep and BlueFaced Leicester sheep. We strive to breed animals that closest match the breed standards given to them, and mindful of production, health and longevity in our animals as well.
In spring of 2016, there was a purchase of 32 acres in Green County, Wisconsin to accommodate Garrett for his work in that region. The animals have for the most part been moved to that location. Both locations will work in tandem to continue educating and promoting these animals and this way of life.

Thursday, February 4, 2016

Moving to the land of cheese

I have tentatively secured a hobby farm in Green County, Wisconsin. The sheep will be moving there the first part of March, and the cattle most likely in the fall. There is a ton of work to be done, and lambs will be coming end of March! not much time to get ready, but its doable.

Photos will come soon!

Monday, December 7, 2015

Rams and bred ewes for sale

In an effort to look ahead to yet another new location for the sheep and a fresh start for myself, I will be looking to sell some bred ewes this winter, and ram lambs/adults as well. We have most patterns and colors available, so do let me know if you have any interest. I have 4-8 proven polled ewes, plus ewes that throw horned rams available.

Wednesday, October 28, 2015

2015 fall breeding groups (and ramblings)

So.. The groups are together. This is usually the time of year i put them together, but no matter how early I put Shetlands together, they never seem to start to lamb until the first week of April. Having them in Wisconsin now, may change that, so we shall see. 

this  past spring we did an informal color census of the FFSSA sheep and found that quite a few color patterns were quite rare. Whites in general were very rare. This makes sense, given that Shetlands are known for their array of colors, markings and patterns. 

We also found that most of the colors were present in polled flocks but not in horned. horned gulmogets were pretty much non existant in FFSSA flocks, horned whites, horned AG, horned light badger face, and horned modified colors. The only colors we really were strong in were gray katmogets, moorits and blacks. 

The FFSSA also has a large number of quality polled animals, so it is my decision to stick with horned stock (rams and ewes, as well as hornless ewes that produced horned rams) so we can continue to have as diversified of USA flock as possible in the realm of horns, fleece, color, pattern and pedigree. 

I have always, and will continue to preserve and protect and promote the 1927 standard Shetland. Not every type of Shetland, but the one that was imported. Inspected and pass the 1927 standard. I also am not in this for personal gain. I want my sheep to be utilized to help promote and protect the future of the breed, not the future of my personal farm. I don't want everyone to have WhitePine Shetlands (although its a lofty idea), but I want them to have 1927 standard Shetlands. If my farm is the right choice for you to get to that same end result, then I am happy to help. 

This year I moved out FORTY (40) adult ewes. That is a lot of ewes, for any one to move out. Some went to purebred homes, some went unregistered (for pure or cross breeding) and some went to market. That is part of being a farmer or shepherd and having the sheep pay for themselves.

So 40 ewes gone. I bred everything pure last year as I hadn't bred in two years. I got a lot of lambs i liked. This fall i kept 22 ewe lambs and 7 ram lambs. I obviously won't keep them all forever, but wanted to see what their microns came back in the spring. They had a lot of what I wanted, more density, more fleece length, more crimp, better conformation. Most of them replaced their mothers (which is always the point of breeding, to be better than their parents).

And since I was looking to expand the white, Ag and light badger face numbers, I decided to make breeding groups for them. So....finally, here are my breeding groups.

WhitePine Loki (white, horned, ram lamb) was put to 9 white ewes. None of the sheep are homozygous white. Some are spotted under the white, some are katmoget under the white and some are modified under the white. Regardless of that, I better get some nice whites as well! The nine ewes are the following: 
WhitePine New Glarus (WP Roman AI x SP Nirvana) horned carries katmoget and spots
WhitePine Roseau (WP Barnabas AI xWhitePine Rihanna AI) carries moorit
WhitePine Noss (WP Robb x WP Neriah ) shes freckled Kate ;)
Lancien Clarice (all domestic lines but silky soft) carries spots
Lancien Aida (mostly domestic lines again) carries spots
Lancien First Lady (mostly domestic lines again) carries spots
PS23 KitKat  - island genetics and UK imports
PS23 Hope - island genetics and UK imports
PS23 Isadora - island genetics and UK imports carries moorit and horned ewe genes
This group is for UnderTheSon Duke. We found out this spring that he carries spots and had some really flashy lambs from him. Since I kept a musket son of his, and six ewe lambs, this group is quite big in the fact that I'll offer Duke FOR SALE after this breeding season. With the group of girls he has here, we should have more stunning lambs to keep from him, to move forward with. He's F2 orion, and could also be modifed, but haven't seen that in the lambs yet. 
His ewes are the following:
Lancien Matilda (Ag gray)  mostly domestic lines
WhitePine Lydia gray katmoget (WT Jazz AI x WS Layla AI) carries moorit, spots and modified
WhitePine Norah Jones  gray katmoget (WP Levi AI x WP Neriah) carries moorit, spots, and modified
WhitePine Des'ree black smirslet (WP Levi AI x Sommarang Eva) 
ShelteringPines Anais gray katmoget (WT Fudge x V Creek Guinevere) carries moorit and spots
Whistlestop 1241 (0525) moorit (WS 1108 xWS 0922) carries modified and island genetics
WhitePine Neap black light badgerface (WS 1123 x WP Naomi) carries moorit and is horned
WhitePine Scatsa horned gray katmoget (WP Flo Rida AI x WP Snow Patrol) carries moorit
WhitePine Aithsetter smirslet gray katmoget (WP Flo Rida AI x WP Adele AI) carries moorit 
WhitePine Taconite black gulmoget (OK Acres Cadillac x BlackForest Tilly) carries moorit and spots
PS23 Jessica black horned (PS23 Fife AI x FS23 Forsythia) carries moorit/modified
PS23 Isabelle Ag gray (Sommarang Gilroy x PS23 Gloria) carries spots
PS23 Karmen musket (PS23 Jack AI x PS23 Goldenrod) linebred Orion.

The group below is for my Purebred BFL that i got while out in Maryland. He is also getting some of Cynthias sheep. I love the mules that BFL x Shetland make, and BFL x CVM is beautiful too.

 The two ewes below are from UndetTheSon farm. Viva (is duke's triplet sister, she is Ag/Katmoget) and Sateen is the fawn kat. Both will go to Sommarang Luc, who is a fine fleece gulmoget (just not in FFSSA)
 This is the rest of Sommarang Luc's girls. Since hes' just being leased, I wanted to make sure he had a lot of ewes in a variety of colors/patterns. I'm hoping for horned gulmoget rams or nice crimpy gulmoget ewes with no side dusting.  His other girls are:
WhitePine Auburn AI mioget(Heights Orion x FirthofFifth Ashanti) this will be a line breeding on Ashanti as Luc is out of Avyt, who is an Ashanti grandson.
WhitePine Nivea AI gray katmoget (Todhill Jericho x SP Nirvana) carries moorit
WhitePine Nina Sky AI spotted gray katmoget (Todhill Jericho x SP Nirvana) carries moorit
WhitePine Pacena musket (FOFA Nekomis x Owlhill Pranilla AI) 
WhitePine Bivina musket (WP Caiphas AI x OwlHill Butter) carries spots
WhitePine Ady Black light badgerface (WS 1123x FOFA Ashegon)
WhitePine Aywick smirslet fawn katmoget (WhitePine Flo Rida AI x WhitePine Adele AI)
WhitePine Skellister horned black light badger face (WS 1123 x WP Salome)
WhitePine Lunna white (WP Robb x WS Layla AI) carries modified and horned ewe)
Lancien Athena moorit (Sommarang Ian x Underhill Alyssa). 


the black light badgerface, I call "Elite" is a four year old who is a phenominal ram in every way. He is Whistlestop 1123, is mostly UK genetics, a super rare pattern in FFSSA animals and has beautiful horns and conformation. I plan on using him again next fall more heavily, so this is his small group for this year. He carries moorit too and perhaps modified so should be fun to see his lambs.
He has the following ewes:
WP Adele AI moorit (Heights Orion x FOFA Ashanti) carries spots
WP Delting black flecket (ShelteringPines Jardin x WP Des'ree) carries moorit
ShelteringPines Mademoiselle fawn katmoget (WT Fudge x UnderHill Amethyst) carries spots
PS23 Josey moorit ( Sommarang Gilroy x SheepyHollow Sienna) carries horned ewe and modified
PS23 Irene black (Sommarang Gilroy x PS23 Funzie) carries spots

This group is just for market lambs. We are using a CVM x Shetland Mule ram over the Shetland Mulse and four CVM cross lambs. Should be a flashy bunch come spring, with fantastic fleece.
 The final group is a small one. WhitePine 1356 (fawn) will be bred to a few select ewes. He is out of WS1222 x WP Auburn AI so is linebred Orion. His ewes are:
ShelteringPines Bengal gray katmoget (SP Starry Night x UnderHill Alix) carries moorit and modified
WhitePine Snow Patrol horned gray katmoget (WT Jazz AI x SP Snow Cloud) carries moorit and spots
WhitePine Clousta shaela (SP Jardin x WP Colbie Calaigh AI) carries moorit. F2 timothy
PS23 Ingrid Ag gray (Sommarang Gilroy x PSEdelwiss) She is an Ag with the darkest fleece i've seen. Will be interesting to see if she is modified or if that is due to another gene all together. 



So there you have it. Have I lost you yet? Can you tell i'm passionate about the breed and preserving the 1927 standard and all the colors/patterns they come in? :)

Friday, October 23, 2015

Rams for breeding groups, fall 2015

This weekend we will be putting the breeding groups together. They were delayed a week, but in all reality, i've never had lambs before the 25th of March, no matter what I do. Typically everyone comes in the first two weeks of April and its pandemoneum for lambing. 

I did not have any lambs in 2014 due to work, so this past fall (in 2014) I bred every single ewe I had to make up for the lost year in breeding. My plan was to be home in Minnesota to lamb them out in April, but life had a way of changing that.

86 ewes were lambed out at Summer Sheep Camp with the knowledge of Cynthia and Liz to keep a watch on the lambs. we had around 150 lambs, and EVERYONE seemed to be quite fit, good weights 

This fall, I will be breeding 45 Shetland ewes, 3 BFLs, 3 Shetland Mules and one Cormo x Shetland. this fall i was down to 30 Shetland ewes of my own, and then picked up 15 more from Laura, Cyndee and Theresa. I also kept 22 ewe lambs to winter and evaluate come spring time.

Anyway.

The rams I"ll be using are the following:

UnderTheSon Duke Cardiff. He is a horned musket, F2 Orion with a perfect build, great fleece length and fantastic horns. He also carries spots. I kept a ram lamb from him this year, and six ewe lambs, as well as going to put him with 10-12 ewes this fall, so HE WILL BE FOR SALE December 1. Ag in fine fleece Shetlands is pretty rare, and I'm wanting to maintain all colors/patterns in the Shetlands that adhere to the 1927 Standard.

Whistlestop 1123 "Elite". He is a horned black light badgerface. He has Orion, Brent, Ram etc in his pedigree, so mostly island influence (Flock book). He will be used on about 5 ewes, as he is a super fine Premium Grade 1. I'll probably use him more heavily in 2016, and then he'd be available. I have three daughters and a grandson who is spotted light badgerface that I can move forward with.

WhitePine 1356 is a fawn horned ram. His parets are Whistlestop 1222 (moorit) and WhitePine Auburn AI (orion/modified). He'll be used on 3 ewes this fall for modified colors. His fleece is phenominal and pedigree is incredible. 

WhitePine Loki - white horned ram lamb. He will actually be getting all 9 white ewes I have, in hopes of breeding more fine fleece horned rams and ewes that have horned ram genetics. Most of the new white ewes I have are unrelated to what I have in my own whites, so will give me good outcrossing genetics.

Sommarang Luc - horned moorit gulmoget with fine fleece. He is a FirthofFifth Avyt son since I'm leasing him from Lori, will put 12+ ewes with him in hopes of getting solid sided gulmogets with horned ram genetics.

Dagon the registered white BFL will get my three BFL ewes, several shetlands and most of Cynthia's ewes. 

We also have a CVM x Shetland Mule ram lamb we are keeing. He'll get put back to the Mules and some of the other ewes of Cynthias.

so that's that. photos of the groups will go up next week when i have time.

Wednesday, September 16, 2015

ewes for sale

I have one ewe available that can be dropped off along my WI to OH route the first week of October:


WP Brettabister 2013 Fawn Katmoget (polled) (WS 1222 x WP Blu Cantrell AI - AFD 28.56,  SD 5.96, CV 20.87, CEM 10.18, CF 62.71, SF 27.8. She is Orion/Jericho lines and had a cracking tup lamb this spring. $300 SSS inspected/passed (Gilbert Meikle)


Tuesday, September 15, 2015

2015 microns for breeding ewes

These 30 ewes will be used for breeding for us this fall. Some will be put to the crossing rams for hay money, the rest will be bred pure.

Name Age AFD SD CV CEM CF SF
SP Bengal 2008 25.77 4.77 18.51 8.12 85.04 24.6
WP Lydia 2009 26.45 4.82 18.22 8.58 81.21 25.2
WP Bethany 2009 26.77 5.27 19.69 8.76 75.98 25.8
WP Auburn 2010 22.29 4.65 20.86 8.85 94.7 21.7
WP Adele 2010 24.14 4.94 20.46 9.35 89.15 23.4
SP Madem 2010 24.9 4.87 19.56 8.05 88.46 23.9
SP Classique 2010 25.74 6.23 24.2 11.1 77.75 25.8
WP Snow Patrol 2010 26.23 5.43 20.7 8.96 78.68 25.5
WP Nivea 2010 26.57 5.16 19.42 9.02 76.36 25.5
WP Nina Sky 2010 27.12 5.45 20.1 9.38 74.28 26.2
WP Norah Jones 2010 27.56 4.96 18 8 73.29 26.2
WP Des'ree 2010 29.39 6.22 21.16 10.76 57.19 28.6
WP New Glarus 2011 25.3 5.26 20.79 9.33 83.97 24.6
WP Pacena 2011 25.47 5.07 19.91 9.53 83.62 24.6
WP Bivina 2011 26.52 5.73 21.61 10.17 75.77 25.9
Sommarang Isla 2011 26.57 5.4 20.32 9.26 77.58 25.7
WP Taconite 2012 24.95 5.34 21.4 9.65 85.08 24.4
WS 525 2012 25.38 5.39 21.24 9.51 83.16 24.7
WP Roseau 2012 26.69 5.77 21.62 9.62 74.13 26.1
WP Ady 2013 22.63 5.09 22.49 9.12 93.17 22.3
WP Aithsetter 2013 23.84 4.86 20.39 8.79 90.5 23.1
WP Scatsa 2013 24.38 5.92 24.28 11.4 84.2 24.4
WP Delting 2013 24.8 4.78 19.27 8.59 88.24 23.8
WP Aywick 2013 25.21 5.61 22.25 10.45 83.95 24.8
WP Neap 2013 25.56 5.23 20.46 9.17 84.17 24.8
WP Clousta 2013 25.59 5.15 20.13 9.32 83.48 24.7
WP Skellister 2013 25.92 5.39 20.79 9.39 80.01 25.2
WP Noss 2013 27.29 5.4 19.79 8.9 71.53 26.3
WP Lunna 2013 27.84 6.16 22.13 11.92 70.88 27.4
WP Brettabister 2013 28.56 5.96 20.87 10.18 62.71 27.8

Monday, July 6, 2015

Our resutls for our rams are finally back from Texas A&M. We had collected the samples in March, when its ideal, but had not sent them in due to lack of time and funds.
Below are the four rams we used last fall, and are the sires of this years' lambs:

WhitePine Carver (mioget smirslet sokket, horned, third year fleece)
 AFD 25, SD 5.6, CV 22.5, CEM 8.9, CF 83.3, SF 24.6

WhitePine 1334 (gray katmoget horned, second year fleece)
 AFD 20.9, SD 3.8, CV 18.1, CEM 7, CF99.1, SF 19.8

WhitePine City High AI (gray katmoget horned, fourth year fleece)
 AFD 28.6, SD 4.4, CV 22.5, CEM 8.9, CF 67.3, SF 26.7

UnderTheSon Duke Cardiff (musket horned fourth year fleece) 
AFD 28.2, SD 5.6, CV 19.9, CEM 10.1, CF 68.7, SF 27.2

City High is available for sale, now that we have lambs from him. He is F1 Lightning, F2 Jericho with outstanding conformation, great horns, mellow personality, dense fleece with nice length. Perfect tail. He's actually most likely shaela, and he carries solid and moorit recessively. $500.
Carver and 1334 are in my freezer (and very tasty!) Duke will be used again this fall.
The other ram for sale is the white, two year old. 
WP1315 white horned ram (carries horned ewe gene) second fleece test AFD 24.9, SD 5.5, CV 22.0, CEM 10.6, CF 8.8, SF 24.4


The other four rams I will be using this fall are listed below with their numbers:
WhitePine 1311 (shaela, horned, second fleece) AFD 25.5, SD 5, CV 19.7, CEM 9, CF 86.1, SF 24.6
WhitePine 1356 (moorit, horned, second fleece) AFD 21.6, SD 4.8, CV 22, CEm 9.2, CF 95.4, SF 21.2
Whistlestop 1123 (black light badgerface horned fourth fleece ) AFD 22.7, SD 5.3 CV 23.2, CEM 10.1, CF 90.7, SF 22.6
ShelteringPines King Louie (moorit horned first fleece) AFD 20.5, SD 5, CV 19.7, CEM 9, CF 97.9, SF 20.3
I am really pleased with the quality of these horned rams, and what the future direction will be of my flock.

Wednesday, April 29, 2015

we've hit another record - photo heavy

 We have had over 100 lambs born at 'Summer Camp' so far, with just a half dozen left to go. We used a CVM ram on some of our Mules, the BFLs, the Cormo cross, and 13 Shetlands, as well as Cynthia's ewes. The results were, with just one exception, spectacular. I can't wait to see how they grow on her grass.

I personally had about 70 purebred Shetlands born there. I would say, overall I received what I asked for (how does that even happen), but still did not get a nice crimpy gulmoget lamb, or Ag gray lambs. I did however get some Musket lambs and the 3 ewe lambs i got are all staying. I plan on keeping at least one ram lamb, but the others, should they warrant the quality they look now, will be available sometime this summer.

I do not dock the tails on the crosses, so they are easy to see. They are also all badgerface. Interestingly i had exactly half of my purebred shetlands born this year, also were of that marking (katmoget in Shetland terms). I am so happy I have so many to choose from.

Believe it or not I also got a few lovely birth coats on some black based lambs. Whether they turn out to be as nice as i hope, we shall see as the fleece comes in, but I am really hopeful.

I continue to push for horned rams, so any polled rams will be offered for sale, if they are of the quality I like. Their mothers, also, no matter which they are, will be offered for sale. I know i have several Polled ewes, and they are some of my finest, but they will be available. With the amount of quality lambs I have hopes of keeping, the polled ewes will be a no brainer for me to move on to flocks that can appreciate them for their polled gene.

I am headed to Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival tomorrow. It will be my first time at that event and I cannot wait to see the sheep shows and see old friends!






































Wednesday, March 25, 2015

And so it begins

Sire is WhitePine City High AI (Lightning x Jericho) and a ewe 1201 from the Whistlestop flock in Oregon, with high UK lines. Ram lamb is nearly 7 pounds!

Monday, November 24, 2014

fourth and final breeding group

This year I have only had 4 groups together. Why, when I have 14 rams? Well, the easy answer is that I am not home a lot to be watering and feeding animals every day, like I used to. I also have so many nice rams now, that choosing who went with who, was fairly difficult, and so I kind of went by 'age'. Since I had no lambs this year, everyone was yearling or older. My oldest two, are both four and hadn't been used so I figured it was their time.

After utilizing F1 rams from AI every year, this year was no different, but I also used several F2, which are equally as nice. Several of these rams are going to be offered for sale, but about half of these rams will be processed in the spring as I cannot keep this many, and there are tiny reasons why I don't like each one. this is my best group of rams to date, so its hard to see any go. But go they must. I am hoping for some wonderful ram lambs to replace them with, when lambing starts end of march, 2015.

Anyway my last group is with a beautiful dark gray katmoget ram. He's a yearling and unnamed. WP1334 is a Jazz son out of WhitePine Beyonce (F2 Orion/F2 Jamie) who now resides in WA state with Franna. His microns were amazing (best ever for me) so I am using him on uewes that could use a little tweaking in areas that he excels in. Not only is he fine, but his conformation is one of my best. His fleece color and markings are lovely so i am hoping for gorgeous katmogets out of him.

**Any polled ram lambs will be available for sale, no matter how good of quality.**

WhitePine Nivea AI - gray katmoget - Jericho x Nirvana. She always produces and so this should be nothing unusual.

WhitePine Tecate - gray katmoget - FirthofFifth Nekomis x WhitePine Terah. Also lovely markings and fleece. eager to see what is produced.

WhitePine Des'ree - black krunet - Levi AI x Sommarang Eva. a fantastic ewe so anything here should be nice. very dense fleece.

WhitePine Roesound - gray katmoget - Whitepine Flo Rida AI (Holly) x WhitePine Rihanna AI (Jamie). gorgeous head and markings. dense fleece.

WhitePine Noss - white - Robb x WhitePine Neriah. she is a lovely white ewe who looks just like the whites you see in the UK. hoping for a nice white to move forward with.

WhitePine Uri - black - WhitePine Flo Rida AI (Holly) x ShelteringPines Amarige. she is also very dense and well put together.

WhitePine Nicollet - fawn katmoget smirslet sokket. Crosswind Apollo x WhitePine Nina Sky AI (Jericho). a ewe I was on the fence about, but decided to keep her after having friends go over her. I'd like to fix her tail a bit, and lower her CV. this ram should do the trick.

WhitePine Scatsa - gray katmoget horned - WhitePine Flo Rida AI (Holly) x WhitePine Snow Patrol (Jazz daughter). I'm looking to improve a few things with her too, but she is nothing to sneeze at.

Whistlestop 1204 - moorit - lots to like about her. she is mostly from island stock so curious to see how the fleece improvement will work over this type.

ShelteringPines Cabotine - mioget smirslet sokket flecket - Fudge x ShelteringPines Ceylon. An extreme mioget (meaning very light) but has produced nice lambs (like Carver, a ram I using for breeding). I love the dam's pedgree so hoping to capitalize on that in this breeding.

Late to the party, but still in with him are two newly acquired ewes:

Sheltering Pines Bengal - gray katmoget - She is a lovely ewe that I am excited to get my hands on. I think these lambs will be incredible, so hoping for something nice to keep!

Sommarang Isla - moorit FirthofFifth Avyt x Sommarang Ginger (a V Creek Guinevere grand daughter) I picked up in New York from Rich and Jen Johnson at Whispering Pines. Her micron, conformation and pedigree were all something i wanted to utilize (and proven to not be polled!)